Hegel and I have been doing a bit of research, looking into the ways and means of the poster, Sue, formerly known as Angelique770. Well, that and a few dozen others, I should say! Sue, Susan, Princess Sue, et al, all have denied any association with the notorious Angelique770 and her obsession with this Ferrerman. She and friends like Kevin and Perse who wouldn't know and Sublime who would know, all denied that Sue was anyone but the lame poster she presented herself as when she arrived at the Main Topix Forum. There was an element of plausible deniability even though we knew this bitch was guilty as sin.
So, as we've outlined here, A770 evolved and devolved into a variety of characters, kinda pissing all over any plausible deniability that there might have been. She's kinda loony toons, I might add. It's fairly interesting because most people who knew her back in the day would probably say she was incapable of showing any personality other than that of the half-assed, sometimes French, therapist that she had portrayed herself when she first went to war with me on the Chicago forum, in '09. We shall see who exactly was trolling whom.
I gotta tell ya kids, don't try these stunts at home! I think these stunts were either performed by a Topix employee or someone who is thisclose with one. How many times can you change a profile before someone at Topix says "Cut it out! Pick one!"?
Strap yourselves in. It's going to be a bumpy ride....
Here’s Angelique unregistered: http://www.topix.com/forum/sf/THQ6VS0GKM7KFCVF4/post15
And here she is in her original Angelique770 account which is now _Anabella_
Of course, some of you will remember her incarnation as _Chiarra_
Now here’s where it get’s interesting! On this thread where she was hoping to hide from trolls,
Angelique770 created a new account. A sock named....._Camille_. Or IS SHE?
Oops, although _Camille_ remains alive in the reply, she seems to have undergone a name
change to Cutest Troll. From Susanville!
Now, that’s not the only time Angelique770 openly used an account to hide. Here she is as
Veronique:
Oops, although Veronique remains alive in the reply, she seems to have undergone a name change to _Oh Well (Princess Sue’s Prop Emissary).
The above is the thread where she met teenagers who later became the Topix Keepers, asking them to come to her rescue. She worked hard to convince them that two people were trolling her: Raptor and Ferrerman. As soon as they saw what she was doing her “husband”, Sean, showed up. He likes using the term “pussboi” a lot. (Strangely enough, Sean posts for points with Susan’s other socks!)
Not long after that, another person entered the fray to support the poor victim. This one went by the name of _Elmer Fudd. Classic!
Oops, although _Elmer Fudd remains alive in the reply, he seems to have undergone a name change to Says Who_, yet another resident of Susanville. I wonder where else, besides posting for points in various places, Says Who_ might turn up?
Why, here’s another familiar face and resident of Susanville! It’s good ol’ Princess Sues Sock. Small world, eh?
Please note that at the time, the sock hadn’t yet undergone a name change and was still known
as Raptor_, a clone sock of a poster Angelique770 didn’t like very much.
Back to new identities! Here’s Angelique770 with another one!
Ahhh, Susans Troll is ALSO from Susanville but must have undergone a name change because she used to be known as _Francesca_
Whew! Is anyone confused yet?
Here’s another friend of Susan’s socks! Why its... _Gail_. Although back in the day she was known as _Angelique_. Better safe than sorry, I guess!
Let’s take a little break. I know I need one. Rather than focusing on names, let’s focus on what is said. Here’s one to bear in mind.
“Your isp "location" is stupid easy to spoof. Lots of free browser plugins will do it in a crude fashion by simply forwarding you through an open proxy server in a different town.
If you want to get fancy, use a packet interceptor and set up a man-in-the middle. You can change things like your ip and mac address inside the packet. You just need to be familiar with how these attributes are encoded inside the tcpip packets. Easy since its an open protocol. It's not to hard, a smart 5th grader could probably do it...”
Back to the socks and names and socks and names! This one can be found posting with his friends from Susanville on lots of the points threads these days, so maybe you’re not surprised to see him jumping into this thread. He used to go by another name that’s a play on a real one. See it in the reply.
Yikes! Says Who_/_Elmer Fudd is not a very nice person!
Next on the list is Far Drifter, another friend of the Susanville crowd on the points threads. But you’ll be surprised at what his name used to be. Yep, ANOTHER name change! This time to Ex-Ferrerman
It appears Far Drifter is an AC/DC aficionado. Very un-Sue-like, but then most of this is. And that’s the point, isn’t it? I thought I hadn’t met Sue before the main forum. She told us all she’d only ever posted on the Evolution/Atheist forums. Apparently, that was another lie.
But she has been on those forums. Fancy meeting all of these folks here!
Far Drifter/Ex-Ferrerman liked to visit faraway places but his story stayed the same. See if you can connect the dots!
http://www.topix.com/forum/who/michael-jackson/TB2T2P0HTI04M4LMC/post6662 (in reply, and oops, I don’t think the kid had been told the truth about that sock.)
http://www.topix.com/forum/who/elvis-presley/TT2RJH6PQ5I3EPB9B/post39683 (Elvis fans need to know! And check out the one about the blog up above. Sounds familiar!)
Far Drifter is more interested in points these days, as are most of the others but they do make appearances here and there.
31 comments:
When she got her socks renamed (including the ones that were a variation of your screen name) she had to know they'd change everywhere. Maybe she wanted it that way. I think she wants people to see her trophies.
"Sue" sounded pretty comfortable calling guys "pussboi" and making comments about dicks. I'd say she's given it a lot of thought;) The only thing she seemed to enjoy more was talking about how easy it is to use proxies. Such a pro!
"trophies". Like a serial killer! Yikes!
Confidential to Bex in Conyers: DO NOT THREATEN ME LIKE THAT!!!!
Explains a lot though....
I'm actually feeling a little sick.
Sue is a man.
This has been going on since '09, and "she" is still talking about trolls and stalkers? How many posters know about this? Jesus.
It has been said, she is a 300# longshoreman named "Lou". That's what I've heard.
Seriously, that's a man.
Only a very gifted writer can pull off another gender - consistently. She's not gifted and she blew it with that technical passage, the male sock, and in so many other posts.
But it doesn't really matter. You have clearly unveiled a professional troll. There's no argument. And a troll who has followed and harassed you for years.
I'm wondering who has known about this all along.
Interesting read. I always knew "Sue" was fucked up--I just didn't know it was this bad!
I wondered how those closest to Sue would react to this, and I fully expected they'd say it was nothing because they're ignorant enough to think people will believe that.
Yes, for those of you pretending not to know who this is about, it's about _Susan_, Princess Sue or whatever other names you know her by. As you can see, there are too many to count and they change frequently! This is the same Susan who whines 25 times a day about trolls following her when no one much has talked to her about anything at all. The same Susan who acted like she had no idea who Angelique was and was offended that anyone would accuse her of being that person....that Susan. The same Susan who whined and lied on 10 different forums about Ferrerman while TROLLING him everywhere he posted. THAT Susan. But you believe her, right? LMAO
Topix: Where self-proclaimed intelligent people check their brains at the door in the name of "friendship".
And this is just the tip of the iceberg...
Which is worse? A Topix lifer like that or a Mike that will copy everything you say for 5 years, store it, label it, then bring it back up and post as a link when the time is right?
Is Sue also Godsmacked?
Maybe. Haven't seen proof of that yet but such a character would be typical.
It's funny, the refrain on Topix when someone is accused of trolling is always: "LOL! Who ISN'T (so and so)?"
That question has only begun to be answered in this case!
Barbi said...
I think this is the creepiest thread. You need to scroll down to read a little more.
http://www.topix.com/forum/chicago/TT60QIP6096QHMLU2/p136#c2788
AKA Hegel, the trolling of Ferrerman has begun.
I would bet most of them are not even reading the post or looking at the links. I had to read it twice to get my head wrapped around it.
The "friends" are gutless. It's easier to act like Sue is some sort of deity - utterly beyond reproach and it's a sacrilege to utter her name except to celebrate her presence.
I remember when I told a poster that when I'm around her, I feel like I'm around a hornet's nest. That couldn't be truer now. This thing, be it a woman or man, is fucking sick.
byline: Deer Whisperer/Luke
You all will have to trust in my veracity as I relate that in my on-line situation, I'd have to set aside ** HOURS ** to follow all the trail links in this blog entry. As long as it remains, I can sample here and there but the necessity for doing that is doubtful.
What I read here is plenty of 'food for thought' that more than supplements prior revelations.
Some observations:
1. Because of the technical part that goes on after "Your isp "location" is stupid easy to spoof.", I have to conclude this is hacker-ish which would explain the constant name changes; if being a topix company person is dis-believed.
2. This is the 21st century. It's not out of the question that a technically skilled female would and can do this. Could be a dude, of course... and it's not out of the realm of possibility that at least 2 people are playing with an account.
3. I remember some of these names flying around Offbeat occasionally since '08. I remember when the Topix Keepers came to visit.
My first observation is the most concerning to me, and for any of you and other folk, that possibility should be obvious as to why you would be as well.
All good points, DW. Yep, take your time with the preponderance of evidence presented. That's a legal term meaning "buttload". We wanted this to be more than the typical Topix trial where someone PM's a few people with an accusation and they all say: "OK!!" So, we decided to lay it all out there.
Mark Twain said: "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled." A normal person will look at a few of the links and readily see what transpired. There's a pattern of duplicity that's rather apparent. One famous Topix lawyer though personified the Twain quote earlier today when he- CONVINCED that I was some graybox with a Nevada ISP- chided me for compiling all this evidence. I guess he learned in law school that evidence was, in fact, schmevidence! All one had to do was believe in something, stronger than someone else and THAT would make it so! Well, that is the Topix court of opinion, anyway.If you actually think about or prove something, YOU are (somehow) the obsessive one, NOT the person stalking you under a myriad of ever-changing personas.
Well, you've been around this stuff for a few years so, you know what I mean, DW. This is not a good thing whether it's an employee or a hacker. This person was once very involved with a group of mostly women on the Chicago Forum. Lord knows what s/he knew about their personal lives and what she might have done with that info. Hopefully nothing. Hopefully, it's just a sick, obsessed troll at play here.
@Barbi, I had a look at Topix and noticed there was no argument for what's been posted here, just a lot of nonsense including Sublime talking to someone who wasn't Ferrerman. His comment was ridiculous in the face of what's been uncovered. It's not surprising, though, considering they've got a lot invested in Ferrerman being the bad guy. I doubt even the truth will cause them to let that go.
@Luke, there IS a lot of info here but it felt like the only way to illustrate who this person is and what she/he is really all about. If the person isn't an employee I have to wonder how Topix might explain away what s/he's gotten away with over the course of four, maybe five years.
Interesting to say the least.
The wording and syntax is eerily similar to that gray box imbecile from Fairfax who I assume is Snabu.
Not as crude but the same anti ferrerman message.
That's why I treat them all like assholes.
That way I'm never wrong.
First time ever posting on your blog, my main ferrerman.
I'm a dedicated non reader too. : )
Probably shouldn't post this.
Don't want them pussy's using my vulgarities against you. Lol
Say hi to Hegel.
Peace out!
Call me crazy but the way that short pretend lawyer is going on about Sue, it almost makes you think they are the same person. He really is so heated and passionate about you,Ferr, writing this article about Sue.
P.S. I've always said and thought that the short pretend lawyer writes like a female. Always been confused about it's real gender.
I see there are still no valid arguments to what we posted. Oh, Sublime went on a tear about the "truth", which he prefaced with "I'm exponentially more intelligent than any of you idiots will ever be".
Then he said he destroyed the blog post. Wow!
So what is his evidence that Sue is who she says she is and that Ferrerman is in the wrong?
1) A post linked to Crunchy Bacon.
2) The fact that Sue uses girly avatars for dozens of her socks and spends an inordinate amount of time posting for points. No one but a girls would do that. Just ask Kevin.
3) She's got good legs according to a picture she's used for an avi, yet he can't be sure it's even her.
Once that summation was completed he stated "Other than that, I don't know much about her and that's totally fine with me." Wow. Who would read that and not be swayed?
You'd think he'd know that in order to make a case you have to do the work (as we did), but this is the same guy who ranted on and on about suing us for upsetting him. Yeah, the same guy who's now standing up for someone who's used Ferrerman's real name or a variation of it as a screen name for at least four socks. Because when she does it, it's "cool" and she's "smart". Oh, and self defense.
Sue continues to run from forum to forum just like she has for the last four years, saying she's being stalked and trolled and now Subslime is saying that that's happening, too. Where? Got links? I suppose if she keeps stroking his virtual dick and tells him he's wonderful a few more times he'll say whatever she wants;)
byline: Deer Whisperer/Luke
Ah .. "Spikey". Getting so 'Subsumed' by details or components in posts that AREN'T there and strives to make them so; oblivious to the real big-picture points and what is ACTUALLY written. And "making up shit" with off-the-wall assumptions/assertions -- intentional escalation as it were.
May it please the court in offering in evidence
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/weird/T0FT3147HKC7H6139/p4#c92
in reply to my #88 to Dennycrain
see #95,96,101,and 110 ... after which I'm outranked by the OP who I respect.
"Spikey": a demonstrable leaper; a jumper ... hyper as in "juiced".
Sublimes attempt to defend "Sue" was a joke.
His funniest line;
...."she played everyone."
Yep. Looks like she played the ol' Subtard most of all.
What a sucker.
That's the thing- she didn't play everyone. Just Sub and a few other people. I keep quoting Twain about it being easier to fool people than to make them realize they've been fooled. People like *Sue* count on that. They know that people don't want to admit they've been conned so they'll continue to believe and even defend. It's kinda a variation of the Stockholm Syndrome, where hostages defended and related to the people who took them hostage. But, I'll call it "The Helsinki Formula" because it's so silly and, that's the way I roll.
"....Inquiring Mind said...
Is Sue also Godsmacked? ...."
All I know is that she and kevin used to feud actively and now they are pals.
Has susan ever feuded with the king of WV?
Susan has at least feuded with Kevin as Godsmacked, maybe a few other characters, on a smaller scale.
Sue being GodSmacked would be about right. CD defends Sue as she does GS and both live close to CD.
Interesting that this Angelique person played a psychiatrist. Susan used GodSmacked to play a psychologist...in about 2011. IT really ties in
She was comically horrible at it too! Mostly she'd cut and paste psychobabble she found anywhere else on the net and and she had a penchant for disavowing love between humans as some sort of chemical reaction- A "PEA haze"- thus, true love was impossible and that explained why she never experienced it. Okie doakie...
But, it really got funny when one of her friends would ask her professional opinion on a matter and her response invariably was: "I'm not giving away this stuff for free!" People bought that!
I've seen that a lot in the threads. You can be any profession you want with Google on your side. Lots of fake lawyers, soldiers, millionaires, etc. etc.
Yeah, GodSmacked googled everything. When she didn't understand it, she made stupid comments like HIPPA was the ethical standards of states for psychologists. No degree you could tell, despite her boasts. She's a loser...and I think Susan is giving up trying to convince anyone anymore on the CHristian forum and Welch forum. They have all moved on to other areas to troll and cyberstalk new people.
Michael Satterfield is the biggest troll on Topix. He sounds like this A770 freakazoid to me.
GodSmacked is a loser. He spends all day judging his posts with positive icons and judging other posters postings with negative icons that don't agree with him. And trolls others in the PR forum.
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